
I received this email a couple of days ago:
Hi Lisa
I’m a big fan of your blog and practical approach, so wondered if you could help me at all?
I am 40 next week (!), mum of a 4 year old boy, who is in nursery 3 days and off to school in Sept. He’s lovely, mostly pretty good and generally very lovable and entertaining.
When he was 2 we decided to try and have another baby. It took about 15 months to get pregnant, and then when we went for the 12 week scan realised we had lost the baby. I spent a gruesome few days in and out of hospital while I “passed the pregnancy” and was pretty devastated – the 1st pregnancy had been text book, so I wasn’t expecting anything like that to happen. We decided to try again, but when nothing had happened after a few months I went to our GP, we got referred for tests. In June I was told that I couldn’t have any more children, unless we went for IVF using a donor egg, which would have to be done privately.
While all this has been going on, last year (before I got pregnant) I took voluntary redundancy from a job that I had grown to hate, and had knocked all the self confidence out of me. After a bit of time just being a housewife, I’ve built up a freelance client base, although I am now feeling that I have taken on too much. I’ve been doing a bit too much juggling, and trying to work when spending time with my son. I do squeeze in a couple of visits to the gym and a singing lesson each week, although I’d like to do more exercise and practise singing between lessons.
My husband runs his own business and has been really busy, which is great because that pays the bills, but we have hardly had time to talk about whether we go for IVF. We were on holiday last week but seemed to spend much of the time avoiding the big conversations and focussing on our son. Our sex was (for me anyway) totally focussed on having another baby, so has rather drifted off in the last month or so.
I have days when it’s fine, I have good friends and a happy life, and I can cope with it all, and days when I really just want to cry all day. I know I should feel grateful for what I do have, but I feel like I am still grieving for the baby we lost. I can’t seem to move on and worry I’m missing out on what time I do have with my son, whois growing up too fast. I have a spare room all full of baby clothes, cot etc, which just makes me sad, and I haven’t the energy to do anything with it.
Today is a bad day, and probably tomorrow will be better but how can I stop feeling so desperate and sad? On the worst days I want to leave my marriage, quit all my work and walk out of my life.
Thanks for listening!
J
My Answer
Grief of losing a baby
What makes me mad is how blasé the world is about the loss of a baby – it’s like it’s some kind of renewable resource because ‘you can just have another’ – argh! I might not have lost a baby, but I do know grief and I do know that you need to be more gentle on yourself lovely as it wasn’t so long ago.
Becoming 40.
What a time of change for you. You are turning 40 and your son is going to start school soon. Just wait for the midlife crisis between 41 and 43; it’s a very important time in a woman’s life! You need to roll with the changes and try to not react to them. It’s more a time to watch and listen to yourself, than make sudden decisions.
In a way things will get easier when your son goes to school – so some of what you need to do is ‘manage’ the next couple of months and then enjoy the slightly more freedom you get when he is settled.
Re Not Being Able To Have Children
I was told that at 19 – look at what happened to me at 36 and 40! The key to my unexpected success (which would also help with IVF) was:
- Nutrition (follow the GI diet as it helps the hormones). (check out my ‘healthy eating for rubbish cooks’ posts).
- Pole Dancing lessons – girly, fun and spinning is good for the ovaries! alternatives would be belly dancing, salsa or something fun and creative.
- Stress relieving stuff – you need to look at the grief and maybe get some help for it. I did a post about different therapies here and a list of my favourite books here. I’d also recommend my book (which is a bit cheeky I know!) but it helps with sorting out the things that you have control over, thus reducing your stress and enabling you to tackle the bigger issues. Plus I’m releasing the 2nd edition in the next 2 weeks and you should get an automatic update.
- Look into alternative therapies – medical herbalism, reflexology and EFT would probably be the ones I would recommend to you to help with this whole process.
Take a month off from thinking about, discussing, or doing anything about becoming pregnant. You are on a ‘getting pregnant diet‘. You are NOT allowed to talk about it at all. Take a month off lovely, and when you’ve spent some time looking after yourself come back to it.
Then you can come back to it. Book a talk with your hubby out somewhere – maybe dinner or over coffee and chat to him about it. Think about adoption as an alternative (as I believe philosophically that those children have chosen us as much as the biological ones).
Time Mgmt
There are lots of time mgmt posts on my blog, but the book is a more polished version. You need to make a list, dump a pile of stuff that isn’t really important to you, delegate loads, and then do or delay the rest. With clients, you can spread them out more and be less available – don’t tell them it is to spend time with your son, just say you aren’t available.
Things don’t get easier when kids go to school, but I think that the one thing that does get easier is having a bit more time for ourselves and having the time more clearly ear marked. I recommend really ENJOYING this summer with your son. Sod the work – just cut back for a bit. Then pick it all up with renewed vigour when he is settled in reception.
Sex
It might not seem romantic – but book a date night and have some sex! It’s only been a month of it being so-so, that’s OK. Have some fun with it, text each other during the day to build up the interest. Sex for creating babies isn’t fun and often isn’t successful in my opinion.
No beating yourself up
Yes, we could all be more grateful, but don’t beat yourself up. If you read my book it will suggest finding 3 things a day to be grateful about. But I don’t want you to hide away the sadness and hurt. There is a section on writing down the problem and I would really like you to go for it and journal all your sadness. Then maybe follow up with a coffee with a really good friend. I so understand why you would be feeling sad at the moment lovely, and why you would want to walk away – it’s a natural reaction and not something to be ignored. Instead you need to listen to yourself more.
I’m sorry this is such a fast answer – but I wanted to get you something as soon as I could and I’m a bit stretched for time. But do please keep in touch. If things don’t work out with the fertility then I have lots of ways that you can get your head around it (although I feel that all you need is some time out).
I’d love any comments from my readers to let J know how normal her feelings are, especially stories where you came through the other side?
I’m so sorry for your loss, but if it helps, I had my babies naturally at 41 and 45 with a husband I wasn’t keen on and a virtually non existent sex life. I kept seeing another child in my mind’s eye, so I knew there was one waiting, then the fates gave me a ‘weak moment,’ during which I decided I really didn’t want to be married to that man any more, let alone have another child with him, started divorce proceedings and discovered I was pregnant. I’d had two miscarriages before my first baby and one in between the two, so I know the heartbreak you are suffering.
It is right to be grateful for what you have and Lisa is right too. All her tips are spot on. You will already know the answer in your heart already re donor eggs. I certainly don’t mean to offer false hope, just to let you know it’s not always as out of the question as we are sometimes led to believe.
Good luck with it all and do let your grieving occur xxx
Thank you for offering your story @anya – it’s always so helpful to hear from people who’ve had similar experiences.
after 40 there is less chances only to get a fertility. women will face the menopause at their age of 45- 50 so they can not able to get pregnant.
There is a lot more to fertility than just age – sorry totally agree with you.